Which of these rights of a Muslim woman do you most appreciate having?

Posted by admin on November 30th, 2009 and filed under liberate definition | 15 Comments »

I wanted to answer the question at the bottom, but I didn’t make it in time, so I’ll make use of my hard work by posting my ideas in this question.

Yeah, Islam has given women so many rights. These are just some of the Islamic-style "freedoms, rights, and liberation" that I can think of:

-the right to feel she should bow down to her husband if she were to bow to a human

-the right to feel her gender is so inferior that most of the people in hell are female, like her

-the right to feel she is deficient in intelligence and religion because her prophet said she is

-the right to obey her husband, even if it brings her much sadness and longing in life because he refuses to allow her to do what she wants

-the right to get beaten if she behaves "badly"

-the right to not pray to her Creator for a quarter of the time because she is "dirty" and has a "disease"

-the right to only have friends that her husband approves (and what if he approves no one?)

-the right to be divorced for any reason, while she must plead her case before a judge for divorce and hope for relief

-the right to lose her children if she remarries

-the right to be cursed by the angels if she doesn’t submit to her husbands sexual advances

-the right to have to share her husband with countless women through marriage or captive sex slavery

-the right to be divorced because her father-in-law doesn’t like her

-the right to be perpetually pregnant because "no soul is born accept what Allah wills", so birth control is a sign of disbelief

-the right to be a "tilth" for her husband. Yes, I rather fancy being likened to a piece of farmland. Very liberating indeed!

-the right to nothing if she divorces her husband, even after years of financial sacrifice to raise their children and not work

-the right to swelter in the heat with her entire body covered and not participate in normal physical enjoyments outdoors because they are not feasible in such attire or due to modesty concerns, while her husband is free to show off his parts as he pretty well pleases

-the right to have her husband refuse sex because he is mad at her (oh, but if she does this, it’s an all-night angel cursing for her!)

-the right to have to marry someone she doesn’t necessarily want so that she can remarry her husband after a third divorce, while he who started the problem doesn’t have to do anything

-the right to have her husband lead her in prayer and life, even if she is far more suited to the task

-the right to travel only with male relative escorts so that she can miss out on any number of life opportunities when they are unwilling or unable to chaperone her

-the right to have her father/husband decide if she will work or go to school or not

-the right to have her father decide whether she can marry a person or not and when she will marry

Now, as to MY definition of freedom, rights, and liberation, you can go down the list above and change each statement to be its opposite and you will have a good idea of what my definitions are. Now, let’s pretend that all of these statements are about men instead. When you as a man are willing to have this same package of bs shoved down your throat as "Allah’s perfect way of life" for you, then we will see if you find a need to ask this question.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AmEbvvSYsDcbM7qAya2Zd3Xn7BR.;_ylv=3?qid=20090309140405AApS8Mj

BTW, I am a former American Muslim female convert who is finally liberated from all of this nonsense. Wake up people!!!
Yanar: I challenge you to prove even one of my points wrong. You are right to be upset with them, because they are bad rules to have to follow. Nevertheless, if you are Muslim you are supposed to. You can research every one of them as I did when I was a Muslim and you will find evidence in support of them. i challenge you to post EVIDENCE (as opposed to wishful thinking) to the contrary.
Taz: Looks like you need to crack open the Quran, hadith, Prophet’s last sermon, and the common fatawa more often! Same challenge as to above. All of these points have those sources. Look them up.
Truly it is I that is amazed that you don’t realize these are commonly known Islamic beliefs. Most of these ideas come straight from the hadith or Quran. I’m afraid you are the one without much knowledge in these matters. If you need help finding sources for them, email me.
marjan: This is not about my life. This is what ISLAM says. I wouldn’t have put up with most of this stuff in my life, even when I was a strong believer. An exception was the hijab and niqab which I unfortunately wore for many years, by my own choice.
baby mika- Studying things with a closed mind in favor of something will produce nothing but praise. I have been on both sides of this fence. I used to believe all of that "Islam liberates women" bs that you’ve apparently fallen for. Keep in mind that it swings both ways. You are closing your mind to what I am saying because you can’t admit that Islam has anything bad in it, even to yourself.
OMAR X: Call me crazy!! :P
Zahra: Your list has some truth in it as far as Islam goes, but it doesn’t tell the full story. For example, a woman should get an education, but what kind? Who decides how much and where? Not her. A woman gets the kids according to SOME scholars, but there is a clear hadith that the father has the better right to take them if she remarries. She has the right to keep her money, yes, but her husband has the right to tell her she can’t work outside the home. Do you see where I’m going with this? These "rights" that you mention are full of very important ifs and buts that you don’t mention.

As to your questions, I follow no religion, but I do believe in a higher power.
Um Huda- I appreciate the seriousness with which you approached your answer and the time and thought that most have gone into it. A couple of years ago I might have written something similar. I would just encourage you to realize that you are in effect embracing inferiority by your statements. And in order to do so, you have convinced yourself that these statements of inferiority are somehow to your benefit. Did it occur to you that while the man does much for the wife, the wife also does much for the man and that she can certainly take care of herself if need be? She is NOT so hormonal that she can’t do that, or pray on her period (which BTW, IS referred to as a disease in the Arabic Quran), or be a leader. You have bought into a certain stereotype about how women are so fully that you ignore the reality of the world around you. You justify the idea that women are the majority of the dwellers in hell by saying that they gossip????
Never mind that men commit the vast majority of the heinous acts in the world including murder, genocide, rape, robbery, fraud, etc. But hey, women are filling hell because of gossiping. Right.

I also enjoyed being compared to a horse. Hmm and if my husband isn’t quite doing the right thing, shall I "slap his wrist" as well? (BTW, the Quran says "idrabhon" which means beat them, not give them a little slap on the wrist.) Allah doesn’t mention that I could do it to him. Maybe I’m too hormonal for Allah to give me such authority. Oh, I can’t punish him by refusing sex either. Don’t really like the thought of those angel curses. SIGH

And what really gets me is the joy you exhibit at totally submitting to your husband because you’ll get some reward for it. This is the oldest trick in the book for social control. "Oh grin and bear it, God will reward you!" A pity "Allah" doesn’t have the men doing the grinning and bearing.
Your last comment there about husbands not taking advantage or putting her in misery to obey him is frankly wishful thinking. If a man is convinced of his superiority, and he most likely will be if he’s a Muslim, he won’t hesitate to pull in the reins on his wife (sorry, the horse analogy stuck) and prevent her from doing what she wants. After all, she is hormonal and deficient in intelligence, so what does she know about what is good for herself? He may have compassion for her, inferior creature that she is, but that won’t stop him from doing what he thinks is right for her as his charge (but likely really for his own sake). You’ll figure this out eventually though, I have a feeling.
taz- LOL. You have no idea what kind of Muslim I was, or for how long! I would be happy to give you sources for whatever I have said, but my additional comments here are already so long and it would take time on my part to do it. If you use the keywords I have mentioned in my list on an internet search, you should get the evidence you need. Otherwise, my offer still stands to help you privately.

-the right to feel she should bow down to her husband if she were to bow to a human

+ because of all the rights the husband must full fill for me, i don’t disagree with this at all. He has to spend money on me, cloth me, feed me, shelter me, be patient with me (esp while my hormones are out of place), take care of my/our children financially, see to their educations, etc, etc, etc…. If I had to do all these for someone else, it’d be kinda nice knowing that if prostration to any other than Allah was permissible, than I would be one to have that RIGHT ;)

-the right to feel her gender is so inferior that most of the people in hell are female, like her

+ unfortunately when I see many other women in the streets yelling, or gathering together and slandering/backbiting and gossiping about other people, then yea it does kinda make me sick. Some women make me feel ashamed to be considered of the same gender :P Unfortunately these women are the majority. Those that don’t see that they are behaving inappropriately are even worse.
The RIGHT that I feel like it’s MY duty to help MY FELLOW women see and realize these mistakes is a HIGH one indeed.

-the right to feel she is deficient in intelligence and religion because her prophet said she is

+ My prophet, The Messenger of God said it and he is known as the Truthful. Even by his enemies. So I assume anyone who denies the Prophet (pbuh) would agree that he is HONEST.
It’s not a secret that women are CONTROLLED by their emotions. That’s why we would make lousy leaders. YET GREAT mothers~! lol.
I can’t always make the best decisions because I let my heart get the best of me many times. And I do not pray or fast during my period nor does any other Muslim women. Deficient in my religion and intelligence. YET it is MY RIGHT that I greatly and gratefully accept that I am receiving rewards the WHOLE TIME!!!

http://www.beautifulislam.net/women/women_men_catchup.htm

-the right to obey her husband, even if it brings her much sadness and longing in life because he refuses to allow her to do what she wants

+ I feel very sorry for the parents who are not respected or obeyed by their children. They sacrifice so much for them for so long out of a love and longing for their lives, and yet the child doesn’t and can’t reciprocate back that feeling EVER! The husband does so much for the wife and it is indeed his RIGHT to be obeyed. A wife that doesn’t indeed sets up nothing but misery in their marriage and lives. It is MY RIGHT to accept this responsibility and to do it with love and endurance and knowing that I’ll be receiving a great reward from my Lord and great respect from my husband. NO husband who sees obedience and respect from his wife would ever think of putting or letting her go through any misery. Rather he would spoil her more than any other husband would. ;) MY RIGHT.

-the right to get beaten if she behaves "badly"

+ It IS my RIGHT that there are rules and guides to this. Alhamdulellah. It’s not my right nor any woman’s right to get beaten the way we see in many western produced or influenced films. It is ALSO my RIGHT that my husband should care enough to guide me and correct me. Since he ALREADY warned me, verbally, and emotionally and I still didn’t get the message, than hey yea give me a slap on the wrist so I can finally get the message if I’m that stubborn. Don’t you beat your horse if he doesn’t get the idea that *tck tck means he should move, and then when you use your body signals whatever you may have trained him to identify and still doesn’t you give him a light slap in the side, right? Important to understand YOUR RIGHTS.

-the right to not pray to her Creator for a quarter of the time because she is "dirty" and has a "disease"

+ My RIGHT that I don’t have to fast nor pray during my period. Hormones don’t always let me think straight and I am GRATEFUL that Allah has made it EASY on women. At the same TIME I am still being rewarded! OH YEA, MY SWEET RIGHTS!!! (fyi, muslims don’t consider period as a disease, rather it’s just a temporary state of impurity and after we bathe we are pure)

-the right to only have friends that her husband approves (and what if he approves no one?)

+ new right to hear about… Cool. MY RIGHT and DUTY to guard my husband and my home. If there is someone we both don’t feel comfortable to, why should they be in our home? Better yet, why should they have anything to do with our lives? Friends become a part of your life. If there is someone who I see to be a nice person, a husband my see something else or know more about her husband/family and know that this person is not a good thing in MY LIFE. MY RIGHT to be protected… from all of the obscene…. etc, etc, etc

Should I continue with MY RIGHTS, RIGHTS OF THE MUSLIM WOMAN, RIGHTS OF A FREE WOMAN, RIGHTS OF THE STRONG, THE PROUD, THE RIGHT.?

Is this disturbing, or is it just me?

Posted by admin on November 30th, 2009 and filed under disturbed liberate | 12 Comments »

While going through interviews of soldiers in Iraq, Came across a number of them where the soldiers describe how they plug CD players into their comm systems, and the kind of music they play.

Music stating such things as "Burn motherf***er burn", "Let the bodies hit the floor", and so forth….

My question is twofold – 1) do you think such songs could cause problems with how the soldiers act towards Iraqis? 2)Does such an attitude among US troops disturb you, when we were SUPPOSED to be going over there to "liberate" the Iraqi people?
For flaming and/or general STUPISITY, the following members have been barred from consideration:

captmhunt, sexyaustraliangoddess, Bad Pookie, jazzkidzmom

If you want to act like an idiot instead of answering decently, then you need to STFU and get off of yahoo answers.
STUPIDITY (Damned typos)

at the very least it distracts their judgement and ‘pumps up the adreneline’

i would want all my senses in tune to the job at hand, not to some song lyrics and blasting music

it may also desensitize them to war and other people which is why i think it is allowed

Does anyone think that our next president should liberate us from our dependence on foreign oil?

Posted by admin on November 30th, 2009 and filed under liberate | 23 Comments »

Wouldn’t our billions of tax payer dollars be better spent on creating automobiles that do not burn gasoline and pollute our air? Pherhaps the federal government could team up with our auto makers (Ford, General Motors etc.)

I have watch this debate for over 40 years. If people were smart they would of listen to Carter. But then you have congress that loves lobbyists money. Hopefully Obama will be own next president and will take all the lobbyist out. It’s time for America becomes the peoples gov’t.

Does my argument convince you?

Posted by admin on November 27th, 2009 and filed under liberate definition | 4 Comments »

Basic Thesis:

reality is assigned … thus the middle way is the safest bet in life … to walk the middle way means to practice moderation, which incidentally will save the environment.

Below is an excerpt from a paper that I’m currently writing as a student in a college course regarding environmental ethics. This, I believe, supports my thesis in showing that values are assigned and not inherent. That is my question to you: "Have I convinced you that values are assigned and not inherant?":

"…Bashar, in his video, Life is Meaningless, shares with us a very reasonable and liberating view of the world. Listening to his message one is taken to a terrain of life that appears as it would in space. So, for the next moment of your time please imagine yourself as an agent in space, a mere mortal roaming as you might on earth during your first visit- any thing is possible– "Life is meaningless- what we MEAN by that is this: Nothing, no situation and no circumstance actually has built in meaning- it’s neutral, devoid of meaning- it’s a prop. But the meaning you give it, automatically, unconsciously or consciously, the meaning you assign, the definition you assign to any given neutral situation is exactly what determines the effect you will get out of that situation. All situations are fundamentally neutral and can serve double duty. They can create for you a negative or a positive reflection that is solely determined by what energy vibration and attitude and belief system and definition you assign to that situation. So no matter what anyone else’s intention in any given circumstance might be toward you, if you assign only a positive meaning to that given same circumstance and situation then you will only receive a positive effect out of that circumstance no matter what anyone else experiences."

And so any given phenomenon can be seen as a center of potential that is initially in a neutral state. Being agents of this world, that is, animals that produce actions which produce effects, it is up to each one of us to decide which way to tip the center of potential, whatever center we may be handling at any given moment; and of course, however we tip it- left, right, a little, a lot- the action will produce an effect. This clearly is no new concept as our whole lives are a series of causes and effects.

Bashar isn’t saying "Life is meaningless", in the literal everyday sense of the phrase. When he says, "Nothing, no situation and no circumstance actually has built in meaning- it’s neutral, devoid of meaning- it’s a prop.", he’s referring to that one unique point at which an individual first encounters what is a new phenomenon to them, what is a stranger to them. That’s what is meaningless, the prop, at that point of first encounter, because the new observer has yet to assign it value. That is, because the newly observed phenomenon is just that, new to the observer, the observer hasn’t yet assigned value to it, thus, it is meaningless- a prop that is devoid of meaning, or better put, a prop that has yet to be assigned a value that will, along with other values, provide meaning. That makes for a good everyday example:

The Meeting a Stranger:

* I meet a man (he is the neutral prop)

* By some means of communication (speaking with him, stereotyping him, whatever) I assign value to him (good, bad, responsible, dangerous, fun, attractive, potential business contact, whatever).

* So I’ve now assigned value to the previously neutral prop; I’ve decided to view him as a potential business contact– so to me, that is what he is. (But that’s my view, of course; that’s not what or all that he actually is.)

This methodology can easily be applied to value judgments of all sorts. The way I see it, we all just find ourselves existing in what can be called the Void. We choose to name all that we perceive- to give it value, meaning– so to be able to talk about it… Language of course cannot come without agreement. But ultimately, any phenomenon is whatever we, as individuals and/or collectively, choose to believe it is because life is whatever it appears to be to the observer, whether that is what is objectively there or not.

Those who have encountered the phenomenon before you, have assigned it their own meaning. Perhaps you have caught wind of their conceptions of the object; perhaps others have and have choosen to accept that view. Perhaps many chose to believe the one view just because its all they had to go on… That is your job; when faced with an unknown you have to decide whether to accept or reject the others view, to take a look for yourself, or to simply forget about it altogether. But at any rate, that’s all it is is someone else’s point of view; they have assigned the value, the value is not inherent. That is not to say that any given phenomemnon does not inherantly have value, but rather that it does not (most likely) inherently posess the value that any given perceiver has choosen to

–"But the meaning you give it, automatically, unconsciously or consciously, the meaning you assign, the definition you assign to any given neutral situation is exactly what determines the effect you will get out of that situation."

Okay, let’s try this situation. I step out in front of an oncoming train. Is the value I assign the train going to make a difference in the effect that train will have on me if I continue to stand there?
"Hmm, I think that train is friendly. It’s just coming to greet me. It wants to be my frien…"

RAW’s Next Theme Song?

Posted by admin on November 27th, 2009 and filed under disturbed liberate | 5 Comments »

I don’t think it will be changing anytime soon, but what would you want RAW’s next opening theme song to be?

I think Liberate by Disturbed would be an awesome theme song.

I think a good RAW Theme song would be that song that Limp Bizkit did for WrestleMania XIX.

Two other great songs would be Word Up by Korn and Land of Illusion by Disturbed.

Would you be in favor of pulling our troops from Iraq and sending them to Myanmar to liberate its people?

Posted by admin on November 27th, 2009 and filed under liberate | 11 Comments »

I know there’s no oil over there, but if Americans are as serious about spreading freedom, democracy, and human rights around the world as they claim to be, surely the Burmese people need our help as much or more than the Iraqis? How about if we pull our troops from Iraq and send them to fight for a TRULY noble and legitimate cause in Myanmar? And unlike the Iraqis, the Burmese (and the world) will welcome American troops with open arms and regard them as liberators, not occupiers. Sanctions like those Bush has proposed simply won’t be enough. The only way is the military way. The only question is, do Americans have the will to liberate these long suffering people? Or is America’s devotion to democracy and human rights just hollow lip service and restricted only to countries with vast oil reserves?

PS: If Bush decides to send troops into Myanmar, I pledge to immediately enlist in the military.

PPS: Long live Aung San Suu Kyi.

Inasmuch as we don’t get much in the way of oil from Iraq, it would seem obvious that there is no real connection between oil and military action. Myanmar has never been a terrorist threat to the USA, so it is unlikely we will send troops there. I think you should enlist either way. Long live George W. Bush.

equality……?

Posted by admin on November 25th, 2009 and filed under liberate definition | 8 Comments »

1. We know all about what you want in "equality" what do you think we want in "equality"

2. Chauvinist is considered a negative name for us, but being a feminist is empowering and makes you feel liberated. Chauvinism is exactly the same as Feminist, just reverse. Why are we being labelled as a whiner when we fight for something like education for boys or justice in the legal system?

*the reason i put equality in " it’s because feminists have a different definition to what it really is, which is, women want it their way, or go have a cry.

1. The falsehood – is men and women will never be equal. Equally important, but totally different.
Marxism realizes this, which is why our system has Nothing to do with equality, and EVERYTHING to do with Equal Outcome.

The greater purpose of the feminist ideology is to drive wedges between men, women, and children. Its a Marxist philosophy (communist) that understands the best way to control people is to divide and conquer – or breaking apart our relationships.
The level of hatred found in western society today is a 100 fold over 40 years ago. Gov’t is solely to blame, and its all part of a larger plan of control. Period.

2. Feminism is a religion, cult, suck in job – watching a dozen women’s studies video’s on Utube will turn even us (men) into men haters. But then logic sets in, and we see a good sales scam. So when we stand up and voice our concerns about biased courts and so forth, were nothing more than atheists challenging hard core Christians who get slammed with words like "blasphemous", "hater", and so forth.

We the men gave women all the rights in the world because they demanded them. Merely questioning whether we gave them too many labels us male pigs – a "sexist" word within itself.

So I observe hypocrisy and double standards everywhere.

What are the lyrics to the new Christmas Gap commercial?

Posted by admin on November 25th, 2009 and filed under liberate lyric | 3 Comments »

it starts off with 2,4,6,8 tis the time to liberate! Go christmas! Go hanukka! Go Quanzaa! Go Solstice!……… there is one line where i dont know what they are saying.

2,4,6,8 tis the time to liberate
go christmas, go hanukka, go kwanza, go solstice
go classic tree, go plastic tree, go plant a tree, go without a tree
you 86 the rules
you do what just feels right
happy do-whatever-you-wantaka
and to all a cherry night!

Songs similar to these?

Posted by admin on November 25th, 2009 and filed under disturbed liberate | 5 Comments »

Hey I really like Liberate by Disturbed and Dragula by Rob Zombie and I was wondering if somebody knew any songs that kinda are similar. I mean kinda fast and kickass like those u know what I mean? Any song suggestions? I like rap as well if you have some suggestions there

hmm i like those kind of songs too..here are some kickass songs:
down with the sickness-disturbed
shout-disturbed
bodies-rob zombie
firestarter-prodigy
breathe-prodigy
stupify-disturbed

On Red Faction Guerilla do guerrilla action disappear when you liberate a sector?

Posted by admin on November 25th, 2009 and filed under liberate | 4 Comments »

i am almost ready to liberate oasis but i want to know if the gorilla raids, house arrests and collateral damage missions disappear and also do the building you have to blow up disappear as well

No They dont. Ive completed the game and over 70 missions and i still have those blue stars for the objectives you have to destroy and all my guerilla missions. They only thing i dont like is house arrests dont fade when you complete them so its kinda hard keeping track of which ones i did. but yeah no they dont disappear.